Ice SpiceaddressedMatty Healy’s podcast controversy for the first time.

Matty did end upapologizingfor the moment, saying at a 1975 show in April, “I just feel a bit bad, and I’m kind of a bit sorry if I’ve offended you. Ice Spice, I’m sorry. It’s not because I’m annoyed that me joking got misconstrued. It’s because I don’t want Ice Spice to think I’m a dick. I love you, Ice Spice. I’m so sorry."

“Because I heard ‘chubby Chinese lady’ or some shit like that, and I’m like, ‘Huh? What does that even mean?’ First of all, I’m thick. What do you mean Chinese? What?” she continued.

Noting that “then they apologized or whatever,” she continued, “the whole time, I didn’t really care. But that’s funny because I saw him at the Jean Paul Gaultier party a couple days ago, and he was like, ‘Hey, you OK?’ and I’m like, ‘Of course.’ He apologized to me a bunch of times. We’re good.”

When it came to sitting with Taylor at the VMAs, Ice said, “That’s my sis. We was talking about a bunch of things. She’s so funny. We was sipping on a little something something. Just chatting, vibing.” She further explained that they met after she watched the 2020 documentaryMiss Americanaand that her manager subsequently reached out to Taylor’s team, who presented her with the “Karma” remix.

Taylor was also interviewed as part of the profile, where she sang her praises as an artist. “I relate to Ice in many ways, but I think her dedication and focus is what blew me away from the very start,” she said in an email to Variety. “She’s extremely professional without being cold. Playful and fun without ever taking her eye off the prize.

You can read the full profile with Varietyhere.

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